Can't find 10% fat biscuit

Looked at Iams, joe and jill and Purina, looked at indoor, light, adult. Just can't seem to find one under 14% fat.
What biscuits does everyone else use?

purina one indoor, james well beloved, indoor go cat, purely (P@H), the new one from tesco's cant remember the name of the top of my head! Iams, Hills. I tend to mix a batch at a time and add slightly more of the quality biscuits to the hogs I have that have difficulty keeping weight on

Thanks, picking up new hoglet on 13th Nov, it comes with a mix but I want to make sure I can make one, maybe combine it with mix from breeder so that it's used to my mix. Found a thread called what's in your mix. Will double check exactly what's in breeders mix.
We have a colony of dubia roaches and locusts so live food is sorted.
How much off a boiled or scrambled egg do you give them?

whiskas biccies with chicken is 11%
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I think Royal Canine Indoor or Light is around 10%. It's also got an excellent protein ratio

the only 2 biscuits i think i have found that match the 30% and 10% rule closely are
iams light with chicken(blue packet)can get in most supermarkets
or sanabelle light with chicken,some pet shops stock or online

most people use mixes because it adds more variety to the food,prevents fussy eating and if a biscuit is no longer stocked its easy to change the biscuit over
where as if you use 1 biscuit and they stop selling it dependant on how much food you have left would mean you have a hedeghog with an upset tummy

when looking for a biscuit look for the first ingrediant being chicken or chicken or meat meal rather than it being a deriviative.

biscuits with the chicken or chicken meal the meat used are the good parts of the meat that humans would eat
where as a biscuit with derivatives are the scrap bits of meat and you dont know what the scrap bits of the meat are

youl also find if you pick up biscuits to compare them the biscuits with chicken/or chicken or meat meals smell nice,the biscuits have a nice feel and look ok for a biscuit
if you pick up a biscuit that is a derivative most smell horrible,look greasy,feel greasy and are quite rough looking (in my opinion anyway)

Go cat is the best around I think; 33% protein and 10% fat..I use the indoor cats one, chicken and vegetables. Whiskers is a close second too (32% and 11%) xx

First number is %protein, second is %fat, third is first 5 ingredients (sorted by %fat top to bottom). Obviously you want to pick two to four with about 30% protein and 15% fat, although the numbers can vary about, and those has meat as the first ingredient. Most people add a small amount of Go Cat for odour control - of my mix, I hav (simplified a bit) a 2kg/2kg/2kg/1kg split of my four, and the last is Go Cat of three different varieties.

Hills Science Plan Adult Indoor Cat Chicken 31.3 8.2 Chicken (Min 53% Chicken & Turkey), Chicken & Turkey Meal, Ground Maize, Ground Rice, Maize Gluten Meal
Hills Science Plan Adult Light Chicken 31.2 8.6 Chicken (Min 58% Chicken & Turkey), Ground Rice, Chicken & Turkey Meal, Ground Maize, Maize Gluten Meal
Pro Plan Adult Light Turkey & Rice 38 9 Turkey (16%), Maize Gluten Meal, Rice (14%), Dehydrated Poultry Protein, Maize
Brekkies Complete Chicken & Turkey 28 10 Cereals, Meat & Animal Derivatives, Vegetable Protein Extract, Oils & Fats, Fish & Fish Derivatives
Brekkies Complete Rabbit, Chicken & Liver 28 10 Cereals, Meat & Animal Derivatives, Vegetable Protein Extract, Oils & Fats, Fish & Fish Derivatives
Claude Cat Crunchies With Poultry (Tesco) 30 10 Cereals, Meat & Animal Derivatives (Minimum 14%), Oils & Fats, Minerals, Yeast
Go Cat Complete Adult With Beef, Chicken & Liver 32 10 Cereals, Meat & Animal Derivatives (Min 25%), Vegetable Protein Extracts, Oils & fats, Derivatives Of Vegetable Origen
Go Cat Complete Adult With Chicken, Duck & Rabbit 32 10 Cereals, Meat & Animal Derivatives (Min 25%), Vegetable Protein Extracts, Oils & fats, Derivatives Of Vegetable Origen
Go Cat Complete Adult With Rabbit, Turkey & Vegetables 32 10 Cereals (Min 4%), Meat & Animal Derivatives (Min 4% Rabbit, Min 4% Turkey), Vegetable Protein Extracts, Oils & Fats, Minerals, Derivatives Of Vegetable Origen
Go Cat Complete Indoor Cat With Chicken, Vegetables & Garden Greens 35 10 Cereals, Vegetable Protein Extracts, Meat & Animal Derivatives (Min 4%), Derivatives Of Vegetable Origin, Oils & Fats
Go Cat Complete Senior With Chicken, Rice & Vegetables 32 10 Cereals (Min 4%), Vegetable Protein Extracts, Meat & Animal Derivatives (Min 4%), Oils & Fats, Minerals
Hills Science Plan Mature Adult 7+ Light Chicken 34 10 Chicken (Min 49% Chicken & Turkey), Chicken & Turkey Meal, Ground Maize, Ground Rice, Maize Gluten Meal
Pets At Home Adult Light With Chicken 35 10 Fresh Chicken (Min 24%), Poultry Meat Meal, Maize, Rice, Maize Gluten Meal
Pets At Home Adult With Chicken, Rabbit, Duck & Vegetables 30 10 N/A
Arden Grange Light Rich In Chicken 30 11 Chicken Meal 26%, Whole Grain Rice 23%, Whole Grain Maize, Beet Pulp
Iams Adult Light Rich In Chicken 28 11 Chicken (>26%), Maize, Wheat, Animal fat, Dried Whole Egg
Burns Chicken & Brown Rice 28 12 Brown Rice, Poultry Meat Meal, Maize, Poultry Fat, Chicken Liver
James Wellbeloved Senior/Light Duck & Rice 29 12 White Rice (Min 26%), Duck Meat Meal (Min 26%), Maize Gluten, Duck Fat, Poultry Gravy
James Wellbeloved Senior/Light Lamb & Rice 29 12 White Rice (Min 26%), Lamb Meat Meal (Min 26%), Maize Gluten, Lamb Gravy, Potato Protein (Min 2.5%)
James Wellbeloved Senior/Light Turkey & Rice 29 12 White Rice (Min 26%), Turkey Meat Meal (Min 26%), Maize Gluten, Turkey Fat, Poultry Gravy
Purely Adult Complete Cat Food with Chicken (Pets At Home) 28 13 Poultry meat meal, Maize meal, Fresh chicken (26% in the brown component), Rice, Poultry fat, Pork gravy, Fish meal, Sugar beet pulp, Linseed, Maize gluten meal, Yeast, Minerals, Barley meal, Oatmeal, Vegetables (peas, carrots, spinach), Fruit (tomato, citrus fruit pulp, grape skins), Salt
Dodson & Horrell Chudleys Feline 30 14 Cereals, Meat & Animal Derivatives, Oils & Fats, Vegetable Protein Extracts, Derivatives Of Vegetable Origen
Iams Senior & Mature 32 14 Chicken (>26%), Maize, Wheat, Animal fat, Dried Whole Egg
Pets At Home Senior Complete With Chicken 32.5 14 Fresh Chicken (Min 25%),Maize, Poultry Meat Meal, Maize Gluten Meal, Rice
Pro Plan Adult House Cat Chicken & Rice 36 14 Chicken (20%), Maize Gluten Meal, Dehydrated Poultry Protein, Rice (14%), Maize
Hi Life Complete & Crunchy Rich In Organic Chicken 29 16 Poultry (Including Fresh Organic Chicken Min 21%), Whole Maize, Whole Linseed, Fish Meal, Vitamin & Mineral Supplements
Iams Adult Rich In Chicken 34 16 Chicken (>26%), Maize, Wheat, Animal fat, Dried Beet Pulp
Iams Adult Rich Lamb 34 16 Chicken Meal, Maize, Wheat, Animal Fat, Lamb (>4%)
Iams Natures Wellness Rich In Wholesome Chicken 34 16 Chicken (>30%), Maize, Animal fat, Rice, Barley
Joe & Jills Fresh Chicken & Rice 28 16 Fresh Chicken Meat (Min 26%), Poultry Meat Meal, Rice (Min 26%), Maize, Chicken Fat
Pro Plan Adult Chicken & Rice 36 16 Chicken (21%), Rice (16%), Maize Gluten Meal, Dehydrated Poultry Protein, Maize
Purely Adult Complete 40% Chicken (Pets At Home) 28 16 Fresh Chicken (Min 26%), Poultry Meat Meal, Rice (Min 19%), Poultry Oil, Sugar Beet Pulp
Purely Senior Complete 40% Chicken (Pets At Home) 28 16 Fresh Chicken (Min 26%), Poultry Meat Meal, Rice (Min 17%), Poultry Oil, Sugar Beet Pulp


Can send you my spreadsheet if you PM me your email address. Makes life oh-so-much easier!

The mix I use is:

2kg - Advanced Nutrition Adult Food with Chicken
2kg - Purely Adult Complete 40% Chicken (Pets At Home)
2kg - Royal Canin Indoor 27
950g - Go Cat Complete mix (Indoor Cat With Chicken, Vegetables & Garden Greens about 50%, then 25% each of Go Cat Complete Adult With Beef, Chicken & Liver and Go Cat Complete Adult With Rabbit, Turkey & Vegetables for the different flavours)
225g - James Wellbeloved Adult Turkey & Rice (again for different flavours).

Whiskers and Go Cat are added junk food. They really should not be the main part of a mix at all. Their first ingredient is cereals, and the second is meat and animal derivatives (that'd be chicken legs, eyes and beaks in layman's terms!). There is very little 'good' nutrient-wise in them - yes their protein/fat is in the right ball park, but it'd be like feeding a person a solid diet of bread. Bread isn't 'bad' in moderation, but it doesn't really add anything - cereals are all filler, so not only is it not really healthy (false healthy, a bit like probiotic yogurts!), but it also means your hog has to eat an awful lot more to get the nutrients they require (costly, although Whiskers and Go Cat are cheap junk; and not terribly good for the obese regarding energy levels).

A lot of people here use Go Cat, as I said above, in small amounts within their mix for odour control. A bit like having a slice of toast once a day - it also adds variety. Not heard the same about Whiskers, but considering the ingredients, it might act the same. Either way, no well-kept hog should be fed either of these as a primary diet, and certainly not as their only source of kibble.

You really need to be considering the first 5, as well as the protein and fat %s. It is more important in many ways, as the protein/fat can be a little more flexible within the mix.

(Whiskers data taken from 'Whiskas Adult Complete Cat Food with Chicken and Vegetables' http://www.petsathome.com/shop/whiskas-adult-complete-cat-food-with-chicken-and-vegetables-950g-2kg-and-4kg-14895 )

That is part of the mix and my hog has added chicken, mince etc....

Yes, but I was pointing out that you cannot have just one kibble, it should be a mix of 2-4 (or more if you're so inclined) types of food. Fresh food (mince, chicken, veg, fruit) is a different thing entirely.

Thats what I meant by 'this is part of the mix' I meant I add iams, purely etc as well as things like chicken and mince x

Yes, yes, I know. But newblets that know diddly also read the threads on this forum, so it is always best to clarify something - who knows who will read this thread (and only this thread), and think that feeding Whiskers/Go Cat to their hog as the only kibble is the acceptable way to do things.